On 04/05/2012 10:53, David Douard wrote: > On 04/05/2012 10:11, Matthew Law wrote: >> Also, >> >> Unless someone is working on it already, I would like to try and build >> packages of the next release for debian. I've never done it before (not >> publicly anyway) so I don't know what it really involves (and I would >> welcome help too) but it would certainly help my own use of sheepdog. > > Same here. I may find some time to help on this task. I believe that the > task (beside writing more doc) may not be that big since debian and > ubuntu already package sheepdog (old versions however, 0.2.3 for ubuntu > and 0.2.4 for debian). I've filled a bug on Debian to ask for a new upstream release: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671466 Guido Günther (maintainer of the package) quickly responded that: 1/ he does not have time to do the job and would accept help on this (what a surprise :-) ) 2/ it requires also an upgrade of corosync, 3/ if he gets some help at maintaining the package, he sees no objection at uploading it for sid (then wheezy). Anyone interested in helping him? I for myself might propose my help but I have no knowledge of sheepdog code, and poor knowledge in Debian packaging, (and I do not have "free" time for this, but I need it, so...). David Douard >> I agree that there is so much more to sheepdog than the website indicates. >> Perhaps we could pool efforts together to make better documentation >> (especially for newcomers) and > > Preparing a new official version (being 0.3.1 or 0.4.0) is a good > occasion for writing this missing doc. > >> introduce a sheepdog-discuss list too for >> the non-developer audience? - just my thoughts as a user/observer. > > +1, the current list is mainly used for code review, so more general > discussions can be "lost" there. Splitting the list is IMHO a requirement. > >> >> On an unrelated note, I noticed this yesterday which claims ElasticHosts >> have been using sheepdog in production for some time: >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/03/elastichosts_managed_services_cloud/ > > This kind of annoucement should be advertised more. I for myself still > not sure I want to use sheepdog in a production environment, because I > still have trouble resuming from "critical" situations, or some > unhandled "instabilities" due to misuse (eg. running the same "collie > vdi create" command from several hosts from cssh sessions make sheep > unresponsive, etc.) > > Seeing sheepdog used in prod environments by others can help to be more > confident, for sure. > > And having a recent version available as deb packages would also be a > strong argument helping me decide to use it on my openstack cluster... > > David > > >> >> Matt. >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 8:33 am, David Douard wrote: >>> On 26/04/2012 11:21, Liu Yuan wrote: >>>> On 04/26/2012 03:12 PM, David Douard wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> there has been a while since the publication of version 0.3.0. Are you >>>>> planning an official release soon? If so, will there be a >>>>> changelog/what's new documentation? >>>>> >>>>> If so, there is IMHO a huge need for more documentation (as always, I >>>>> know). The README is a nice quickstart guide, but there is no real user >>>>> or admin documentation answering things like: >>>>> >>>>> - how do I configure sheepdog? (and what can be configured?), >>>>> - what are the available stores? How do I choose/configure a backend >>>>> store? should I consider using farm? how? >>>>> - and most important: how do I recover from critical situations? what >>>>> to >>>>> be aware of when a critical situation occurs? etc. >>>>> >>>>> Following the mailing list for a little while, I've noticed that some >>>>> of >>>>> the missing informations can be found in the mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, are you planning an official release soon? And do you plan to >>>>> improve user documentation? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi David, >>>> Thanks for your dedicated work on sheepdog. Yes, I think we should >>>> provide at least a user guide in 'doc' directory along with source code. >>>> I'll patch up a new file dedicated for it, though it might be incomplete >>>> with biased viewpoint, then anyone can patch upon it for improvement. >>>> >>>> For official release, I guess Kazum will give a better and >>>> authoritative answer. >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Any news on some release plan? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Yuan >>> >>> -- >>> sheepdog mailing list >>> sheepdog at lists.wpkg.org >>> http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/sheepdog >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: david_douard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/sheepdog/attachments/20120504/fafbee9e/attachment.vcf> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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