[wpkg-users] Wpkg client

Chris Wilcox not_rich_yet at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 19 20:30:46 CET 2009


I ran wpkg on Vista for the first time today - I initially didn't realise that on Vista the wpkg window won't show up but I guess I don't mind so long as I know it is actually running.

 

Out of interest is this 'feature' mentioned on the wpkg page anywhere?



 
> From: michael at ugilt.net
> To: K.E.Jones at bton.ac.uk; wpkg-users at lists.wpkg.org
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:16:27 +0100
> Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> 
> Keefy.
> Did you ever had time to dig further into this?
> - asking as I'd really would like to see notifications working in Vista
> 
> Best regards
> Michael
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org
> [mailto:wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org] På vegne af K.E.Jones at bton.ac.uk
> Sendt: 9. januar 2009 21:54
> Til: Tomasz Chmielewski; Vladimir Psenicka
> Cc: wpkg
> Emne: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Although not strictly on-topic I ran across a few bit on the Vista
> security stuff that might be useful to mention here.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org [mailto:wpkg-users-
> > bounces at lists.wpkg.org] On Behalf Of Tomasz Chmielewski
> > Sent: 08 January 2009 10:59
> > To: Vladimir Psenicka
> > Cc: wpkg
> > Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> > 
> > Vladimir Psenicka schrieb:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have some questions about wpkg client 1.2.1
> > >
> > > 1. is there any option to display what is wpkg client doing
> > > (instaling/upgrading package 1, etc) in logon messages when system
> > boot up?
> > 
> > In versions 1.3.x.
> > 
> > 
> > > 2. in windows Vista there are no logon messages from wpkg client,
> > why?
> > 
> > Because "security improvements" in Vista disallow it.
> > Unless someone knows workarounds for that.
> > 
> Absolutely correct and damn annoying too!
> 
> I did hunt around a while back to see if there was a way round it.
> As far as I can tell, there are two potential solutions that work "with"
> or "outside" the security.
> 
> 1) In theory, signing code and having attributes set in the code
> manifest
> can allow a service "some" access to the secure desktop. These seemed
> useful.
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms742884.aspx
> http://www.kwakkelflap.com/blog/2007/04/howto-interactive-service-in-win
> dows.html
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms683502.aspx
> 
> It might be possible to put something together from that but I wouldn't
> want to be the one to try :-)
> 
> 2) Although it's ugly there's a Group Policy setting that makes scripts
> run visibly on Vista. You get a black DOS box when WPKG.JS launches but
> anything it does is visible (including any processes it launches).
> I haven't tested yet to see if you can override that or get rid of the
> DOS box but it might be worth a shot.
> 
> I have a prototype running now that produces a GUI from a COM object
> rather than use the client's one. It's a bit more awkward to setup and
> adds .NET dependencies but pretty cool ;-)
> 
> I'll tidy it up and bug it as an enhancement. If it's not useful
> at least it has some interesting JScript code that I adapted from some
> rather cool design pattern examples from the web :-)
> 
> Back soon!
> 
> Keefy
> 
> PS: This is a throwaway comment but I guess if "push comes to shove"
> WPKG.JS
> could be ported to Jscript.NET and become compiled code instead... The
> NET
> dependency wouldn't be ideal but the access to the .NET framework could
> give it a GUI of it's own and add a lot of really useful routines.
> 
> I actually wouldn't mind having a go at that myself... hrmmm... 
> 
> > 
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> > Tomasz Chmielewski
> > http://wpkg.org
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