[wpkg-users] [Bug 171] User notification does not work on Vista

[Robin Roevens]

Maybe it is a good idea to supply a small executable in the tools 
directory that will be used for notifying the user?
That way you are not dependent on a Microsoft ways of notifying users, 
thus not windows-version dependent. (except for binary incompatible 
windows versions :-))
Something in style of the current WPKGclient notification, or like 
WPKGmessage (
http://www.gig-mbh.de/edv/software/wpkgtools/wpkg-message-english.htm)

This tool can then give current state information about the wpkg process, 
and disappear when the process is done..
And you can then also put an option in that tool so that the user can 
press a button to let it dissapear into the systray or so, so it is not in 
the way of the working user, but the user is still aware that the process 
is still running..until that tray icon disappears. (maybe it is best to 
have an animated tray icon then). And the user can check on the current 
state by clicking on that tray icon which then displays the tool again..

WPKG could then even use that tool to ask the user questions like, "would 
you like to reboot now or later?"

Only a suggestion though :-)

Robin

wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org wrote on 04.09.2009 15:55:17:

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> [wpkg-users] [Bug 171] User notification does not work on Vista
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> --- Comment #1 from Rainer Meier <r.meier at wpkg.org>  2009-09-04 15:55:10 
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> Yes I know. This is true for Windows 7 too. Personally I don't like 
> this way of
> user notification too much (never use it personally). WPKG Client is 
supposed
> to inform the user in much more details about the currently ongoing 
activity.
> However also this does not work any more on Windoes Vista/7.
> 
> Currently you might use the pre-/post-execution feature of WPKG client 
to
> notify users or change wpkg.js to use "msg" instead of "net send". In 
any case
> this way of notifying users is extremely limited and annoying in most 
cases.
> The dialog box cannot be "cancelled" by WPKG so it stays there until the 
user
> closes it. They also queue up and there is no possibility to overwrite
> displayed messages. So if the user is not at his desk he will find a 
message
> that WPKG starts updating, then he clicks OK and immediately has to 
close
> another message that WPKG finished.
> 
> Alternatively msg offers a "timeout" where the message disappears
> automatically. But if the user does not read the message while 
> displayed (let's
> say for 10 seconds...) he will not know that something is going on.
> 
> Moreover this messages do not prevent the user to use the machine - 
> so it's not
> much more safe than just doing all the work in the background.
> 
> 
> So I am thinking about allowing the administrator to define a 
> timeout (or 0, so
> the message stays until the user accepts it) which defaults to 5 
> seconds. After
> that the notification will automatically close. It's just informing 
> the user if
> he's at the desk and looking at the screen and it will anyway not 
prevent the
> user to perform any action.
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