[wpkg-users] Windows 7 - Compatible?

[cleitet at gmail.com]

Hi, all

My intention is to add a user mode system tray client too in the future,
yes.

The system is now that the wpkg-gp.dll running as a GPE will contact a
service and ask it to execute wpkg.js.

This scales to adding a client running in the system tray that could do the
same, and even running a centralized service that contacts all clients and
ask them to execute wpkg, giving control over the upgrade process.

I am also investigating how to do "update on shutdown" as well. I am not
sure on how to communicate that to the user, as I have not (yet) found the
interface Windows uses for generating messages on shutdown (Like "please
wait, installing update 1 of 10") but I know that a service can delay
shutdown indefinitely, even on Windows >= Vista, but userspace programs
cannot.

But this is all in the future, what I have for now is the reimplementation
of old features (I hope) :) I'll come back pretty soon with more.

-CL

2010/12/10 Brent A Nelson <brent at phys.ufl.edu>

> Either of these approaches could be interesting, but it would be nice to
> give the users a measure of control.  The second approach sounds like it
> will do that, although still not quite as convenient or familiar as the
> Windows Update behavior.  It seems as if wpkg-gp is making good progress in
> this direction...
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Troy Hamilton wrote:
>
>  Brent,
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Brent A Nelson <brent at phys.ufl.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As things stand now, we've been reluctant to upgrade large packages (say,
>>> Office 2007->2010), as this would be applied when they turn on their
>>> computers, and they might have to wait an hour before they can use their
>>> machines.  But if the user got a notice that the update was ready, they
>>> could choose to apply it or be aware that it will install on the next
>>> reboot.
>>>
>>
>> Have you considered running wpkg.js outside of business hours (either
>> with a scheduled task or cron job) to install such large packages?
>> You may also have other reasons for not doing that, but I thought I'd
>> ask.
>>
>>
>>  Once you have those features, will you be adding support where a
>>> non-privileged user could potentially launch a wpkg upgrade while logged
>>> in?
>>> Perhaps much like Windows/Microsoft updates, where it could check to see
>>> if
>>> there are any changes every so often, and then let the user know what
>>> changes would be applied and give them the option to proceed? That would
>>> be
>>> very cool.
>>>
>>
>> At some point in the past, I had an unofficial (custom) wpkg service
>> installed, and I used setacl.exe to change the permissions on the
>> service so that non-admin users could start it.  I'm not sure if this
>> would work with Windows 7 or not, but it might solve half of your
>> problem.  I'm pretty sure that services can't interact with the
>> desktop in Vista and Win7, so that still leaves the task of notifying
>> the user of the update(s).
>>
>> This might not be exactly what you're looking for, but I thought I
>> throw it out there anyway.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Troy
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