<tt><font size=2>Dear Rainer,</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I was wondering how you exluded the flashplayer activex,
since you wrote on </font></tt><a href="http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2011-November/008252.html"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2011-November/008252.html</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>
that you were against this non-feature ;-).</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Did you use such a method as described in </font></tt><a href="http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2011-December/008424.html"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2011-December/008424.html</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>
:</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I don't think so, since the package as described on
the wiki </font></tt><a href=http://wpkg.org/Flash_Player><tt><font size=2>http://wpkg.org/Flash_Player</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>
includes both activex and plugin installers, and it is not immediately
clear to me how you modified it. Could you post your config to the
list please? I will add your changes to the wiki if you like.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>PS: I'm using wpkg-gp 0.15 and it works without any
issues (till now) on Windows 8.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Thanks for your efforts,</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Jürgen</font></tt>
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> From: Rainer Meier <r.meier@wpkg.org></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> To: "'wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org'" <wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org>,
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Date: 27/08/2012 00:46</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Subject: [wpkg-users] WPKG on Windows 8</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Sent by: wpkg-users-bounces@lists.wpkg.org</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> Hello,<br>
> <br>
> Actually I have decided today to spend some time on Windows 8 <br>
> migration today. I <br>
> try to just report my results without any intention to start a war
about user <br>
> interface discussions. So if you're going to reply please focus on
technical <br>
> discussion of issues.<br>
> <br>
> Here's a summary of my findings:<br>
> <br>
> I did install WPKG Client 1.3.14 64-bit on Windows 8 Professional
<br>
> 64-bit. I have <br>
> used wpkg.js version 1.3.1-RC12.<br>
> The configuration I have used is the same as for Windows 7. This <br>
> includes some <br>
> post-installation changes I typically use:<br>
> <br>
> sc config wpkgservice depend= NSI/Tdx/Afd/tcpip/LanmanWorkstation<br>
> sc config wpkgservice start= delayed-auto<br>
> <br>
> This will run the service delayed and usually works fine even for
network <br>
> adapters reporting link ready even if the driver is not ready yet
(see <br>
> discussions on the list for Windows 7).<br>
> <br>
> My configuration also includes service termination after execution
so the <br>
> service is not permanently running.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Overall the migration to Windows 8 was very smooth. The only thing
I<br>
> really had <br>
> to adapt was to create a new profile for Windows 8 machines which
<br>
> exclude some <br>
> packages. In my case:<br>
> - Exclude FlashPlayer Active-X<br>
> (embedded in IE 10, so I prefer it to be updated via
Windows Update;<br>
> although the version embedded currently is outdated)<br>
> - Exclude installation of Microsoft Security Essentials<br>
> MSE is actually integrated into Windows Defender now.
It won't install on<br>
> Windows 8 and report incompatibility<br>
> - Exclude installation of Internet Explorer as IE10 is included already<br>
> <br>
> And that's it basically. WPKG will just deploy all the packages fine.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Some issues:<br>
> - CAUTION: I found that the WPKG service is not restarted when you
<br>
> shut down the <br>
> machine and re-start it. This is due to the new Windows 8 session
resume <br>
> feature. During shutdown Session0 will not be terminated but will
be<br>
> hibernated <br>
> instead. So when the machine is powered on again the system session
<br>
> is restored <br>
> from hibernate rather than fully booted. On one hand this provides
very short <br>
> boot times but on the other hand services are not refreshed. So crashed
<br>
> (unexpectedly terminated) services remain dead and also WPKG service
is not <br>
> re-launched as some people might expect.<br>
> Please also note that if you initiate a REBOOT rather than shutdown/restart,
<br>
> then session 0 is actually terminated completely and then of course
<br>
> also WPKG is <br>
> re-launched then.<br>
> So if your users always just shut down properly, then you might have
issues <br>
> getting WPKG re-launched without putting a task scheduler entry <br>
> which (re)starts <br>
> the WPKG service based on schedule.<br>
> You have to expect that such installations will run WPKG basically
<br>
> once a month <br>
> (after Windows Update installation and required real reboot) unless
<br>
> you're going <br>
> to disable the feature entirely:<br>
> - (Desktop) Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options<br>
> Click "Chose what the power buttons do" and
disable "Turn on fast startup"<br>
> <br>
> But I do not recommend this since fast startup actually provides really
<br>
> accelerated startup on many machines (especially those without SSD).<br>
> <br>
> I will have to check how WPKG-GP complies with Windows 8.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> - Only partially a WPKG issue but I found Windows 8 creating pinned
"Start" <br>
> items for every installed application installed for the user which
installs <br>
> them. When additional users log on to the machine they will find <br>
> empty "Start" <br>
> panel so users will have to pick all the programs from the "All
<br>
> apps" menu only <br>
> found when right-clicking in the start screen. I am working on a script
which <br>
> pins most important applications (Word, Excel, LibreOffice, <br>
> Firefox...) to the <br>
> start panel for new users via RunOnce registry key. So on very firstlogin
the <br>
> start panel will not only contain app tiles.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Overall WPKG seems to work pretty well on Windows 8 without any changes.
<br>
> Although packages might need some updates and new profiles will have
to be <br>
> defined in some cases. The good thing is that we won't have to care
about app <br>
> deployment as they are installed and updated via the store. Not sure<br>
> if it would <br>
> be even possible to deploy apps via command-line from sources other
than the <br>
> market or install them globally. I found already strange that in a
multi-user <br>
> environment user A won't see apps installed by user B at all even
if<br>
> the appl is <br>
> free (well, might be license policy driven). As far as I know <br>
> Microsoft at least <br>
> promised providing tools to deploy apps in corporate environment to
all users <br>
> but I guess it requires a system management center installation <br>
> which is perhaps <br>
> a bit overkill in smaller networks or at smaller schools.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Pending:<br>
> - Try WPKG-GP<br>
> - Get informationa bout app deployment and policies<br>
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