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i use WPKG and it works fine. but what i don't like about it is
that i have to write scripts to upgrade packages and using the
examples from the website which seem incomplete. what would be
better is if wpkg could pull the scripts from a central resource
where they could be tweaked by users until they function correctly<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/06/18 21:44, QiQQ Partners wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I read a lot messages
with the question, what will be the feature of WPKG. I’m
also not really sure what the future will be of WPKG, but I
can say that it’s extremely reliable and when you test all
you’re packages in Win 7 32,64-bit and Win 10 32, and 64 bit
for installing. upgrading and removing you can trust on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One month ago I had the
problem, that I need to renew our way of deployment. We
need to deploy software over the internet and WPKG is based
on a network share. I’m already using WPKG for a long time
and it never disappointed me, but I really need mobile
device management. Because at the moment we used a
combination of Active Directory, scripted and synced group
policy’s to our clients who are having one way AD trust.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So I was looking for
other software than WPKG to deploy my software, there a very
much applications from free till to expensive. But mostly
are using a push method and don’t show the users what’s
going on their computer. I love the way WPKG works, so I
started to combine WPKG with our RMM tool N-Central.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The most important part
from WPKG are for me:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">It’s check system works perfect<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">Remove command are included, to keep
computers clean<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">It is a GET system, not aPUSHsystem like
almost all alternatives.
<o:p></o:p></span>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">GET: The machine is running WPKG-GP, and
is asking what it packages needs to be installed,
updated or removed<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">PUSH: I have a package, I do a scheduled
deploy, but when pushing software can already be in
use… So sometime packages fails<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">Almost zero problems, when using with
WPKG-GP. It runs on boot before the login screen. So no
other software is running and install and remove commands
can do there work perfectly under system account<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">To give you’re clients the option to install
software when they have time, just deploy WPKG-GP Client.
It’s written in Putty and gives users a small tray icon
what checks for new software.
<o:p></o:p></span>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">When new software is found, it brings up
a popup<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">When clicking the popup, clients can say
to install.
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">The applications say to close all windows<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l2
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</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Will do a synchronize<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l2
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>iii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Let the user know when ready<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="6" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US">When clients forget to install updates, on
reboot WPKG-GP will take it over and deploy packages at
boot.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But mobile devices, what
about them? We had this problem, that mobile devices can’t
reach the network share. Before we installed the Softether
VPN clients that starts before WPKG starts. And it was
working perfect, but now we wanted to implement it for
clients without any server. So we setup the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Make webserver, SSL based and place the next
files on it:
<o:p></o:p></span>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Folder as software share, where al
package zip files are stored<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">%custommername%.hosts.xml<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">profiles.xml<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">packages.xml<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Implement the URL’s to config.xml, we also
did enable “applyMultiple” variable to match at more
hostnames<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Make a zip on the place it on the http server<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">With N-Central we created a Automation
Script, called WPKG deploy
<o:p></o:p></span>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">New computer, we install N-Central agent<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
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style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Let it create a system environment variable
%custommername%<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Push out the task WPKG Deploy, this download
WPKG.zip and extract files WPKG.JS and config.xml to your
own folder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>iii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Runs the command: cscript foldername\wpkg.js
/quiet /install:wpkg-gp,softwareaudit,python,wpkg-gp-client<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>iv.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Now N-Central give a message, WPKG is installed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
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style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>v.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->We open
WPKG-GP Client
<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>vi.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Press update and everything will be installed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l3
level3 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span>vii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-US">Reboot computer and WPKG-GP will do the rest
when needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="4" type="1">
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="2" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">We can redeploy config files and wpkg.js
when needed with<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">All packages are having variables, to make it
more easy.
<o:p></o:p></span>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Software source<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Download and unzip commands<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">Destination
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">All you need<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">All packages are stored on the https server<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">All package packgename.xml are stored in
separated folders on the server<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><span
lang="EN-US">A Powershell script combines all separate
package.xml to one packages.xml, because WPKG can’t crawl
through the separated package xml file if you place them
in the packages folder.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A export from N-Central
will export the hostname, client and site name to a CSV
file. I’m busy making a Powershell script to import this CSV
file and automatically renew the hosts.xml file and based on
the site variable I can add specific packages to specific
groups of computers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Because we don’t want to
make all packages, we created a perfect NinitePro
integration, that do’s:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-US">Give a applist input, to Ninite for checking
if applications are installed or need to be upgraded or
installed<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-US">All packages, have a check like:
<br>
<check type="execute" path='%comspec% /C
%INSTALL_SOURCE%\versioncheckv2.bat "%NINITEPACKAGENAME%"'
condition="exitcodeequalto" value="1" /><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-US">Almost all applications are installed and
checked in combination with WPKG and Ninite.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Some people will say why
don’t you use N-Central or Ninite agent to deploy the
software. Because I love they way WPKG is build, with
perfect check, install, upgrade and remove command. And
because it starts before Windows is running, so it uses a
GET option we have computers that are installed a long time
ago and never get in to problems. Also it’s very clear to
the user with WPKG-GP and WPKG-GP Client what’s going on,
just like Windows updates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">After 2 weeks of
redesigning and testing our share based WPKG, I rebuilded it
to a powerfull location and server independent package
managment system. With a lot of thanks to the projects:
WPKG, WPKG-GP and WPKG-GP client.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Things to do for me:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span
lang="EN-US">Integrate other package managers as Chocolaty
and Npackd. That WPKG will check for this repository’s if
there are needed installs, upgrades or removes<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span
lang="EN-US">Add client side SSL certificate to my https
WPKG sever<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span
lang="EN-US">Add a variable, when inside the client
network don’t set the local https server.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span
lang="EN-US">Maybe sharing my complete script and package
database on Github<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So I hope that everyone
that’s thinking that WPKG is death, it’s open source and you
can build what you want.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Greetz ARKO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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