[wpkg-users] Wpkg client

Fri Feb 20 05:57:13 CET 2009

The ”feature” is discussed on this list but the only reference I’ve found on
the web page is the change log that states that restrictive Vista security
doesn’t allow for delaying logon.

Correct me if wrong

/Michael

Fra: wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org
[mailto:wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org] På vegne af Chris Wilcox
Sendt: 19. februar 2009 20:31
Til: wpkg
Emne: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client

I ran wpkg on Vista for the first time today - I initially didn't realise
that on Vista the wpkg window won't show up but I guess I don't mind so long
as I know it is actually running.

Out of interest is this 'feature' mentioned on the wpkg page anywhere?

> From: michael at ugilt.net
> To: K.E.Jones at bton.ac.uk; wpkg-users at lists.wpkg.org
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:16:27 +0100
> Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> 
> Keefy.
> Did you ever had time to dig further into this?
> - asking as I'd really would like to see notifications working in Vista
> 
> Best regards
> Michael
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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> [mailto:wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org] På vegne af
K.E.Jones at bton.ac.uk
> Sendt: 9. januar 2009 21:54
> Til: Tomasz Chmielewski; Vladimir Psenicka
> Cc: wpkg
> Emne: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Although not strictly on-topic I ran across a few bit on the Vista
> security stuff that might be useful to mention here.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wpkg-users-bounces at lists.wpkg.org [mailto:wpkg-users-
> > bounces at lists.wpkg.org] On Behalf Of Tomasz Chmielewski
> > Sent: 08 January 2009 10:59
> > To: Vladimir Psenicka
> > Cc: wpkg
> > Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg client
> > 
> > Vladimir Psenicka schrieb:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have some questions about wpkg client 1.2.1
> > >
> > > 1. is there any option to display what is wpkg client doing
> > > (instaling/upgrading package 1, etc) in logon messages when system
> > boot up?
> > 
> > In versions 1.3.x.
> > 
> > 
> > > 2. in windows Vista there are no logon messages from wpkg client,
> > why?
> > 
> > Because "security improvements" in Vista disallow it.
> > Unless someone knows workarounds for that
> > 
> Absolutely correct and damn annoying too!
> 
> I did hunt around a while back to see if there was a way round it.
> As far as I can tell, there are two potential solutions that work "with"
> or "outside" the security.
> 
> 1) In theory, signing code and having attributes set in the code
> manifest
> can allow a service "some" access to the secure desktop. These seemed
> useful.
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms742884.aspx
> http://www.kwakkelflap.com/blog/2007/04/howto-interactive-service-in-win
> dows.html
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms683502.aspx
> 
> It might be possible to put something together from that but I wouldn't
> want to be the one to try :-)
> 
> 2) Although it's ugly there's a Group Policy setting that makes scripts
> run visibly on Vista. You get a black DOS box when WPKG.JS launches but
> anything it does is visible (including any processes it launches).
> I haven't tested yet to see if you can override that or get rid of the
> DOS box but it might be worth a shot.
> 
> I have a prototype running now that produces a GUI from a COM object
> rather than use the client's one. It's a bit more awkward to setup and
> adds .NET dependencies but pretty cool ;-)
> 
> I'll tidy it up and bug it as an enhancement. If it's not useful
> at least it has some interesting JScript code that I adapted from some
> rather cool design pattern examples from the web :-)
> 
> Back soon!
> 
> Keefy
> 
> PS: This is a throwaway comment but I guess if "push comes to shove"
> WPKG.JS
> could be ported to Jscript.NET and become compiled code instead... The
> NET
> dependency wouldn't be ideal but the access to the NET framework could
> give it a GUI of it's own and add a lot of really useful routines.
> 
> I actually wouldn't mind having a go at that myself... hrmmm... 
> 
> > 
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