[wpkg-users] Chocolatey?

[Peter Gough]

This. Absolutely this.

If all I needed to do was install 7-zip and Dropbox then Chocolatey (or
Ninite or any one of a number of alternative package management apps) would
fit the bill.

In the real world I need to manage and maintain a mixture of open source
and commercial apps, some of which have specific licensing requirements.
Using wpkg lets me deploy pretty much whatever I want using a consistent
framework.

Further to that I have some concerns about trusting the package
maintainers. The chocolately site <https://chocolatey.org/about> states
'...until we have package moderation in place, the answer is that you can't
trust the packages here...' and '...if you are a business looking at using
Chocolatey, it is strongly recommended that you do not use the community
feed.'

It might be a bit more work but I'd rather be the one downloading binaries
from known trusted sites and managing the updates myself than trusting
random people on the internet to do this for me.

This is a useful conversation to have and something I think it's a useful
exercise to explore alternatives to workstation management on a reasonably
regular basis but I haven't seen anything yet that chocolatey can do which
would convince me to move from my current setup.

Peter

On 3 November 2014 20:05, Jon Rhoades <jrhoades at svi.edu.au> wrote:

> I think it's great that Chocolatey exits and with Microsoft's recent
> announcement, it's only going to get better, but it's not something we'd
> consider at this time:
>
> Most of our significant packages are site licensed and customised to our
> environment (eg Office/CS6/Endnote/SPSS...) negating any open repository
> benefit.
>
> We centrally manage all of our PCs (and indeed Mac's using WPKG's cousin
> Munki) - packages get installed on startup according to a generic or
> specific profile according to host name - this guarantees up to dateness &
> compliance.  Chocolatey certainly didn't used to do this, I believe it's
> evolving and does at least now do administrative installs.
>
> A real alternative to WPKG for us would be Puppet or MS System Centre or
> Symantec Alteris, all of which have a similar feature set to WPKG - but the
> technical debt involved would make it a pretty expensive move!
>
> That said if there was something like Autopkg
> <https://github.com/autopkg/autopkg> for Munki that allowed Chocolatey to
> update WPKG packages, then we'd be talking!
>
> Cheers Jon
>
> --
> Jon Rhoades
> Research Information Systems
> Eastern Hill Academic Centre
> (Incorporating The University of Melbourne Departments of Medicine,
> Surgery and Clinical School (St.Vincents), St Vincents Institute and OBrien
> Institute)
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Marco Schmidt" <schmidt at fgcz.ethz.ch>
> *To: *wpkg-users at lists.wpkg.org
> *Sent: *Saturday, 1 November, 2014 4:44:51 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [wpkg-users] Chocolatey?
>
>
>  From my point of view:
>
> 1. Chocolatery is under active development/support
> 2. Chocolatery has a huge community
> 3. Chocolatery uses "modern" powershell
>
> I am sorry to say, but I guess, the days of WPKG are counted.
>
> Greetings ...
>   Marco
>
>
> On 31.10.2014 13:44, Jon Goldberg wrote:
> > We've been using wpkg here for several years; a new hire said that they
> > previously used Chocolatey to perform similar functions.
> >
> > Has anyone evaluated wpkg vs. Chocolatey and come to any conclusions?
> > Is anyone using them together?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
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